Thursday, June 01, 2006
To shove or not to shove ?
I played about two hours of SHNL on UB again last night, starting out by losing lots at 2/4 and then decided I'd rather 1-table 5/10 and play right.
At some point during the session, I had QQ utg and made a standard raise to $35. It was folded to the Small Blind, who until this point had played a fair amount of hands but I didn't remember him ever raising and certainly not reraising. SHNL is a game that has very little preflop reraising going on for some reason - I am often one of the loosest or more aggressive reraisers at the table just because i am willing to reraise AQs, JJ and sometimes 98s.
Anyway, this guy pops it to $125. I feel like call, fold, and shove are all legitimate plays.
I don't really like to raise to $300 or so since you leave yourself open to getting outplayed on the flop (what do you do if someone with 99 decides to get clever and bets out $300 on the Ace high flop etc), and you can't fold to a shove simply because you will be getting 2-1 and I HAVE seen 77 and ATo all-in preflop.
I end up playing it as weak as is humanly possible - I call $90 more basically hoping for a set, then fold to his pot-size bet of $285 on a ten-high flop. Sounds as weak now as it felt then, but I still think there's a decent chance that I escaped cheaply from giving away my stack.
I guess I need to sit down and actually analyze and try to figure it out mathematically whether or not QQ is good enough to shove preflop, or if it's at least good enough to shove on that flop.
Anyway, I ended the evening up $1100 or so, most of it coming from a hand where I had 77 against KTo on the KT7 board.
At some point during the session, I had QQ utg and made a standard raise to $35. It was folded to the Small Blind, who until this point had played a fair amount of hands but I didn't remember him ever raising and certainly not reraising. SHNL is a game that has very little preflop reraising going on for some reason - I am often one of the loosest or more aggressive reraisers at the table just because i am willing to reraise AQs, JJ and sometimes 98s.
Anyway, this guy pops it to $125. I feel like call, fold, and shove are all legitimate plays.
I don't really like to raise to $300 or so since you leave yourself open to getting outplayed on the flop (what do you do if someone with 99 decides to get clever and bets out $300 on the Ace high flop etc), and you can't fold to a shove simply because you will be getting 2-1 and I HAVE seen 77 and ATo all-in preflop.
I end up playing it as weak as is humanly possible - I call $90 more basically hoping for a set, then fold to his pot-size bet of $285 on a ten-high flop. Sounds as weak now as it felt then, but I still think there's a decent chance that I escaped cheaply from giving away my stack.
I guess I need to sit down and actually analyze and try to figure it out mathematically whether or not QQ is good enough to shove preflop, or if it's at least good enough to shove on that flop.
Anyway, I ended the evening up $1100 or so, most of it coming from a hand where I had 77 against KTo on the KT7 board.
# posted by dirkb : Thursday, June 01, 2006
